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Beyond Tough

Beyond Tough

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What does it really mean to be tough? Actor, writer and former NRL player Matt Nable sits down with some of Australia’s sporting icons to find out. Brought to you by Volkswagen Amarok, this series takes you beyond the known highs and through the unspoken lows to discover what real toughness looks like. Uncovering the courage, vulnerability and the strength it takes to keep showing up when it matters most.

Episodes

NRL Favourite, Aaron Woods

NRL Favourite, Aaron Woods

From fan favourite to fierce competitor, Aaron Woods has lived every high and low rugby league can throw at you. In this candid chat with host Matt Nable, Woodsy shares the self-belief that fuelled his rise, the backlash that came with club changes, and the toll constant scrutiny can take. He speaks about lessons learned through social media pressure, mental health struggles, and the importance of reaching out for support. Woodsy also reveals the more personal side of his story, from career crossroads to supporting his wife through IVF, and how those experiences shaped his character on and off the field.
42min•Nov 9, 2025
Olympic Swimming Icon, Cate Campbell

Olympic Swimming Icon, Cate Campbell

Four-time Olympian, world champion, and one of Australia’s most inspiring athletes, Cate Campbell has seen the highest highs and the hardest lows of sport. In this chat with Matt Nable, Cate reflects on her evolution from teenage record-breaker to seasoned champion, and the lessons she’s learned along the way. She speaks about identity, perseverance and rethinking what toughness truly means, sharing deeply personal moments around injury, expectation and mental health. From the pressure of Olympic finals to challenges far beyond the pool, Cate’s reminds us that strength often comes from life’s most testing moments.
37min•Nov 9, 2025
Cricketing Legend, Brad Haddin

Cricketing Legend, Brad Haddin

Brad Haddin has always been known for his grit behind the stumps, but in this conversation with host Matt Nable, we see what real toughness looks like. Opening up about his daughter’s cancer diagnosis, Brad reflects on the life-changing moments that reshaped his outlook on cricket, family and what truly matters. He talks about the clarity that comes from crisis, the challenge of returning to elite sport, and the quiet strength it takes to keep showing up when life hits hardest. It’s raw, moving and deeply human, a story of resilience that goes far beyond the game.
39min•Nov 9, 2025
NRL Great, Wade Graham

NRL Great, Wade Graham

From teenage prodigy to Premiership hero, Wade Graham has lived the highs and heartbreaks of rugby league. In this episode hosted by Matt Nable, he reflects on the turning points that defined his journey, from being forced out of his beloved Penrith Panthers to finding his purpose and edge at Cronulla. Wade talks about leadership, endurance and what genuine toughness looks like beyond the scoreboard. He also shares what stepping away from the game taught him about balance, family and identity. It’s honest, insightful and full of the kind of perspective that only comes from a life lived in the game, with a few surprises along the way. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
37min•Nov 9, 2025
AFL Powerhouse, Brodie Grundy

AFL Powerhouse, Brodie Grundy

Today, he’s one of the AFL’s premier ruckmen, a dual All Australian and someone who’s seen the game from every angle. In this episode hosted by Matt Nable, Brodie Grundy sits down to talk about the journey that’s shaped him, from leaving Adelaide at 18 and battling homesickness, to redefining what success and toughness really mean. He opens up about life in the public eye, navigating trades, and finding balance beyond the game. Thoughtful, honest and deeply self-aware, Brodie shares insights that challenge the stereotypes of what it means to be a professional athlete, and reveals how those challenges led him to a place of real happiness, both on and off the field.
41min•Nov 9, 2025
Beyond Tough - Trailer

Beyond Tough - Trailer

What does it really mean to be tough? Actor, writer and former NRL player Matt Nable sits down with some of Australia’s big sporting icons to find out. Brought to you by Amarok, this series takes you beyond the known highs and through the unspoken lows to discover what real toughness looks like. Uncovering the courage, vulnerability and the strength it takes to keep showing up when it matters most.
2min•Oct 26, 2025
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