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Teaching While White Podcast

Teaching While White Podcast

Teaching While White

Education

Over 80% of teachers in the U.S. are white. But most don’t know that their whiteness matters. TWW seeks to move the conversation forward on how to be consciously, intentionally, anti-racist in the classroom. Because "white" does not mean a blank slate. It is a set of assumptions that is the baseline from which everything is judged; it is what passes for normal. This means if you are not white or don’t adhere to those assumptions, you are abnormal or less than. TWW wants to have conversations about those assumptions: what they are, how they impact our students, and how we can confront our assumptions to promote racial literacy.

Episodes

What we can learn from the fight for Mexican-American Studies, with Dr. Nolan Cabrera

What we can learn from the fight for Mexican-American Studies, with Dr. Nolan Cabrera

N/A•Nov 6, 2025
Why Teaching Matters with Dr. Pedro Noguera

Why Teaching Matters with Dr. Pedro Noguera

Pedro Noguera is a prolific writer. Some of the books we mentioned can be f ound here.
N/A•Oct 24, 2025
The History of Whiteness, with Dr. Jacqueline Battalora

The History of Whiteness, with Dr. Jacqueline Battalora

Our guest is Jacqueline Battalora, author of, Birth of a White Nation (Her lecture can be seen here ) and, Lucy, a Girls Journey From Indenture to Freedom in Colonial North America. Here is the past episode Liza references that explores how to move forward when we get things wrong in cross racial relationships. Finally, the Book Jackie was reading, Betty by Tiffany McDaniel can be found here!
N/A•Oct 9, 2025
Teaching While White the Reboot!

Teaching While White the Reboot!

Listen to the trailer for the upcoming episodes- that will start being released October 9th!
N/A•Sep 30, 2025
Episode 29: Coping with Racial Stress with Dr. Howard Stevenson

Episode 29: Coping with Racial Stress with Dr. Howard Stevenson

What does Cross racial solidarity look, sound and feel like? Elizabeth and Liza speak with Dr. Howard Stevenson about the need to acknowledge racial stress so that we can be authentic and antiracist in our cross racial relationships.
N/A•Mar 11, 2024
Episode 28: Cross Racial Solidarity

Episode 28: Cross Racial Solidarity

In this episode, Jenna and Liza talk with a cross racial team, Dr. Tabitha Moore and Erin Maguire from Vermont public schools about how they have been able to build a successful collaboration across race to effect greater change.
N/A•Feb 26, 2024
Episode 27: Our New Co-Host: Liza Talusan!

Episode 27: Our New Co-Host: Liza Talusan!

http://www.lizatalusan.com/
N/A•Sep 25, 2023
Episode 26: Why Tracking Doesn’t Add Up

Episode 26: Why Tracking Doesn’t Add Up

(Ep 24) Kevin Welner and Prudence Carter, Closing the Opportunity Gap: What America Must Do to Give Every Child an Even Chance. (Ep 25) John Diamond and Amanda Lewis, Despite the Best Intentions: How Racial Inequality Thrives in Good Schools Edutopia: Moving Beyond Status in Math Class Detracking, AVID atmosphere may improve students’ health, psychosocial outcomes https://corp.smartbrief.com/original/2023/05/detracking-psychosocial-outcomes NCTM: Catalyzing Change in Middle School Mathematics Radical Math The Algebra Project Rethinking Mathematics: Teaching Social Justice by the Numbers
N/A•Jul 30, 2023
Episode 25: Despite the Best Intentions

Episode 25: Despite the Best Intentions

Despite The Best Intentions Learning for Justice Article Detracking.com Voices for Racial Justice Integrated Schools
N/A•Nov 28, 2022
Episode 24: As a Matter of Track

Episode 24: As a Matter of Track

Episode Resources: Prudence Carter and Kevin Welner, Closing the Opportunity Gap: What America Must Do to Give Every Child an Even Chance Carol Burris and Delia Garrity, Detracking for Excellence and Equity Jeannie Oaks, Keeping Track American Progress report, ​​ Closing Advanced Coursework Equity Gaps for All Students Learning for Justice, “How one school stopped tracking students” Parent organizations: Integrated Schools
N/A•Sep 2, 2022
Episode 23: Parenting While White (Part 2): The Collective Impact of White Parents on Schools

Episode 23: Parenting While White (Part 2): The Collective Impact of White Parents on Schools

Jenna spoke with Ellen Guettlet about her decision to move her children out of a predominantly white school in Minneapolis.
N/A•May 17, 2022
Episode 22: Talking to Young, White Children About Race, with City Love

Episode 22: Talking to Young, White Children About Race, with City Love

N/A•Apr 25, 2022
Episode 21: Parenting While White (Part 1) -- Talking to White Kids About Race

Episode 21: Parenting While White (Part 1) -- Talking to White Kids About Race

There are plenty of great resources out there. Gere are some to get started. S ocial Justice Kids Raising Race Conscious Children Beyond the Golden Rule Here is the music from City Love that we featured at the end!
N/A•Feb 26, 2022
Episode 20: Engaging Resistance, CRT, and What’s Best for Kids, Part 2

Episode 20: Engaging Resistance, CRT, and What’s Best for Kids, Part 2

To learn more about Kimberland Jackson and her work: www.kimberlandjackson.com IG: www.instagram.com/kimberlandj www.mindingmyblackassbusiness.com IG: www.instagram.com/mindingmyblackassbusiness www.TheWholeChild.tv
N/A•Dec 7, 2021
Episode 19: Engaging Resistance, CRT, & What’s Best for Kids, Part 1

Episode 19: Engaging Resistance, CRT, & What’s Best for Kids, Part 1

In this episode, Jenna sat down with Nicole Post, an elementary school teacher from St. Louis. Nicole describes how she met with and challenged the resistance she faced from administrators and parents when teaching about race in her classroom.
N/A•Oct 23, 2021
Episode 18: Brand New Pandemic, Same Old White Supremacy

Episode 18: Brand New Pandemic, Same Old White Supremacy

Elizabeth sat down with Thu Anh Nguyen to discuss how the pandemic has highlighted white supremacy in schools. Thu Anh Nguyen (she/her) is an educator and writer whose work centers around equity and justice. Thu Anh has led workshops and writes essays about cultural competence and literacy. She is also a poet. Her writing has been published in Literacy Today, Southern Humanities Review, Cider Press Review, and Crab Orchard Review. Make sure to read Thu’s blog as well. Thu can be reached through her website, www.thuanhnguyen.com.
N/A•Sep 18, 2021
Episode 17: Elena Aguilar on Coaching for Equity

Episode 17: Elena Aguilar on Coaching for Equity

Elizabeth sits down with author and coach, Elena Aguilar to talk about how race shows up in teaching coaching relationships.
N/A•Apr 27, 2021
Episode 16: Racial Identity for White People with Dr. Janet Helms

Episode 16: Racial Identity for White People with Dr. Janet Helms

N/A•Mar 3, 2021
Episode 15: Mockingbird in the Classroom: The Student Experience

Episode 15: Mockingbird in the Classroom: The Student Experience

A follow up from, To Teach or To Kill a Mockingbird, in this episode we hear from a group of multiracial students about their experiences studying this iconic text in schools
N/A•Feb 8, 2021
Episode 14: No Neutral Zone

Episode 14: No Neutral Zone

In this episode, Jenna speaks with William Yepes, a Spanish teacher in Cambridge, MA who is originally from Columbia. William talks about the false notion of "remaining neutral," and how his journey to becoming a US citizen defined his identity and his teaching practice.
N/A•Nov 3, 2020
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